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Obama’s Lawyers caught in lies

Last week I was on Plains Radio, discusssing the Obama Birth Certificate fraud and some Obama lawyers came on and decided to spread lies. However they were caught. Here is a snipet of the Plains Radio chat room on Friday night;
Ed_Hale: dang no way – after the crap i took for 2 days about having the Obots on here – they an’t coming back
Jessie3: Charlene, say it like it is, we want to kick a$$
LUGNUT96: lol Ed
charlene: Ed,  Oh Come On.. Just For A Few
TexGirl: any other ladies want a piece of jimbot?
charlene: Give Us The Chance To Kick His Behind
LUGNUT96: yes
Ed_Hale:  NO No No No No
LUGNUT96: lol
KatieIN: Ed, thanks for listening to the voice of plains radio folks
charlene: And Send A Message To Barry
LUGNUT96: Yes Ed
TexGirl: kick his butt
zulu: No
LUGNUT96: lol
LUGNUT96: yes
TexGirl: we’ll gang up on him
charlene: ed, your no fun   
TexGirl: zulu and linda too?  anybody else?
Ed_Hale: Beside Jim Sent Me A Eamil Where They Surrender To Us – They Could Not Take Any More Of Us Catchign Them In Lies
lindastarr: Gang Bang Jimbot
charlene: Ed,  but it woudn’t be a question and answer session
Jessie3: really Ed, we got to them?
charlene: lol
TexGirl: Patriot-bang jimbot
X-MEN: Hey for you know he could be in here right now.
charlene: it would be a kick behind
harriet: Give him the information to send a letter to Judge Schneider will do more good.
Ed_Hale: Yes after Ken and Sc took them apart jim sent me a email saying they would not be back
TexGirl: i want a piece of jimbot … that would make my day
Jessie3: that was nice of him Ed. they have been ringing our chimes for too long and we beat em
TexGirl: i would tear him up and spit him out
charlene: look what happened,  Plaines Radio created a monster
Ed_Hale: He knows that Texgirl
LUGNUT96: Have Ken And Sc get jimbot again Ed
Leecamp: hope so robbie
TexGirl: those obot chicks needed a good swift kick in their butts
charlene: Ed..  thanks a lot and it was Your  program that created a monster ( me) lol
KC4TX: Ed they never counted on so many smart people
Ed_Hale: yes they thought all of you were like me – a dumb redneck Texan
TexGirl: fakejimbot?
LUGNUT96: loll Ed
charlene: Jessie all of us can
charlene: and ed your far from dumb..
LUGNUT96: they will be back and wwe will be ready
booklady: They’re mistake, Ed, is that you may have an accent, but dumb….no.
Pmb09 has left.
Lanie: Ed knows they wouldn’t have a chance with us.
Robbie: fakejimbot called in impersonating jimbot and we saw right through him and tore him a new a-hole.
swift: no its barry
TexGirl: we always know the ‘real’ jimbot … he’s always drunk   
harriet: charlene: there are more of us than them.
LUGNUT96: lol pof
Ed_Hale: 4 days in a row we had our show highligthed in a email – last one was “obama lawyer get their butts handed to them by 2 lay people on Plains Radio”
Robbie: Texgirl, fakejimbot sounded just like jimbot, so we think it was him and sent him out of here crying!
Jessie3: Rush said today that Bo was usurping America
Ed_Hale: and then it had the link to the archives
TexGirl: robbie … oh that is sweet …that y’all had him cryin like a baby   
Ed_Hale: that is one reson we have gotten so many new listeners
LUGNUT96: yees linda
mominva: lol X!!!!!!!!!
Robbie: i know it was jimbot because he always sounds like he is taking a sip of something and we know it is Jack Daniels.
charlene: Xmen lol
lindastarr: well I helped bring new people in too Ed
Jessie3: did you hear it lee?
LUGNUT96: well then Ed that is why we want Jimbot Back Her  then
TexGirl: jack daniels laced with koolaid
Ed_Hale: Eeveryone was so suprised that Ken and Sc were so knowldgeable on Obama
Lanie: I think they are scared to come back anay.
chuger: The people in our government today are the sons and daughtes of the radicals and revolutionaries from the 60′s and 70′s that burned and terrorized our country. They are classic Marxist, fascist National Socialist  evil people.
TexGirl: oh …well…. ken and Sc are extremely knowlegable
Lanie: anyway
Leecamp: ken and Sc rock!!!
X-MEN: I’m telling you guys what we’ve done is making an impact. My friend is a harcore Obot lover and now he calls him Hitler.
pof: I didnt see them chanhe their mind Ed
Ed_Hale: so I can get yelled at by some of the folks here Lug
LUGNUT96: Ed We Need To Send Them 2 out and on the news channels lol
Jessie3: daughter well great grand daughter of the revolution
TexGirl: my heros … ken and Sc 
TexGirl: and Ralph and Carmen 
charlene: Yes Ken and Sc are the best
zulu: good x
SC: Thanks lug
LUGNUT96: Yes Ed Lol
kaks: Yes, Ken and Sc need to go to the news channels.
TexGirl: and Ed and Caren 
LUGNUT96: hah
GHOSTfighter has joined.
LUGNUT96: welcome Sc
TexGirl: and hummingbird
X-MEN: He is not the only one, others are seeing it..
KC4TX: hi Ghost
booklady: Wb, ghostie!
Leecamp: Obama is not president…never can be.
Lanie: Obama is showing them himself Ed but now they are believing what we say.

Now I recieved the following e-mail;

> —– Forwarded Message —–
> From: “Unalienable Rights” <keeprrights@gmail.com>
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:22:46 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
> Subject: WOW! Obot Lawyers Torn Apaprt — AND– The BIG GUY –VP Procter & Gamble is TICKED at the RAT/USURPER/ “SIAP”
>
> Keep feeding strong resentments to the Fed and State reps at all levels to get them to move on out NOW with removing the RAT/USURPER/ “SIAP” from OUR TRUE AMERICANS’ HOUSE.
>
> Also, hear the Obots support lawyers get their rear ends tore out by l ayman researchers here at a down to earth news source called Plains Radio.

The other night the Obot lawyers were attempting to tell people that the STATE of Hawaii ONLY releases the abbreviated or “Short Form”. I told them that this was a lie.
They then attempted to say that all the data and records were transfered to a database and that was all they had.

I decided to re-confirm with the State of Hawaii and here is their reply.

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I decided to inquire further and dig deeper, here again is the State of Hawaii’s reply.

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Now, here is WHAT is important.

1. The State of Hawaii, still maintains ALL the origional records.

2. The Long Form Birth Certificates are still available, with a Judges Order!

3. The Obot lawyers have been caught in another Lie, and attempting not only divert attention but out and out MIS-REPRESENT facts to the American public.

Other lies are were that the “Natural Born Citizen” clause was amended. Please see here for a detail explaination: http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/natural-born-confusion-only-for-obama-supporters/

 

Natural Born Confusion – Only for Obama supporters

 After posting the Constitutional Points to ponder, I was flooded with comments. I decided to pick the worst comment that was sent and dicest his illogical and clearly labeled lies.  My responses in RED

Now lets look at how far the Obots are trying to confuse the truth.

 Author : smrstrauss (IP: 70.19.198.241 , pool-70-19-198-241.bos.east.verizon.net)

E-mail : smrstrauss@aol.com

URL    :

Whois  : http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=70.19.198.241

Comment:

Re: “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. “

 The quotation is from a translation of Vattel that appeared 100 years after the Constitution was written. No translation of Vattel before the Constitution used the term “natural born citizen” (Vattel himself wrote in French.) What were his words? “Les Naturels ou indigènes font ceux qui font nés dans le pays de Parens Citoyens.”

The version that I have been quoting is  The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758) Emmerich de Vattel.

Clearly there is no “citoyens” (citizens) in the phrase “Les Naturels.” The translation that was made before the Constitution said: “The natives, or indigenes [whatever that meant] are those born in the country of parents who are citizens.”

Again I will correct [whatever that meant] (sure sounds like he’s is confused)

“The term ‘indigenous people’ can be used to describe any ethnic group of people who inhabit a geographic region with which they have the earliest known historical connection”

 So the authors of Article II in the Constitution could not have been thinking of Vattel when they wrote “Natural Born Citizen.” What were they thinking of: The common law of Britain (and of America too), that had held for decades that someone was a “Natural Born Subject” if she or he were merely born in the country and not to a foreign diplomat.

 Again, states miss-information.

Benjamin Franklin’s (a signer of our Constitution) letter to Charles W.F. Dumas, December 1775
“I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the Law of Nations. Accordingly, that copy which I kept (after depositing one in our own public library here, and send the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed) has been continually in the hands of the members of our congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author”?

And James Madison said: It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States.

The commonly used term in the law at the time was “Natural Born subject.” There was no use in law or common discussion that “Natural Born” required two US parents and being born in the country. Since the reference “Natural Born” can only have been to the common law, the common law definition applies, and that merely requires birth in the USA.

 Again, miss-quoting and miss-leading remarks.  Again, I will correct him.

 All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England.
-Circuit Justice Swayne, in United States vs Rhodes (1866)

 And that is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:

 Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:

 “Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)

 Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:

 “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)

 Senators Hatch and Graham are NOT correct. But is this the first time Senators or Congressmen have been wrong.

 As a case in point I refer to SR 511. SR511 is a non-binding, non-lawful understanding, that can not be held as a LAW. Being such, a non-binding resolution is a written motion adopted by a deliberative body that cannot progress into a law. The substance of the resolution can be anything that can normally be proposed as a motion.This type of resolution is often used to express the body’s approval or disapproval of something which they cannot otherwise vote on, due to the matter being handled by another jurisdiction, or being protected by a constitution.

Again, I will note: being protected by a constitution.

This Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004 refers to the following; S.2128 Natural Born Citizen Act.  That act never passed and hence as of this Judiciary Hearing in Oct 2004, the meaning and Constitution had never been amended.

So let’s look at the Natural Born Citizen Act

 S. 2128: Natural Born Citizen Act

A bill to define the term “natural born Citizen” as used in the Constitution of the United States to establish eligibility for the Office of President.

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Sponsor: Sen. Don Nickles [R-OK]show cosponsors (2)

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Text: Summary | Full Text

Status:  Introduced Feb 25, 2004

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 Reported by Committee (did not occur)

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 Signed by President (did not occur)

 This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven’t passed are cleared from the books. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session. 

Last Action: Oct 5, 2004: Committee on the Judiciary. Hearings held.

Related: See the Related Legislation page for other bills related to this one and a list of subject terms that have been applied to this bill. Sometimes the text of one bill or resolution is incorporated into another, and in those cases the original bill or resolution, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned.

Now lets fast forward to Feb 2006 and look at the following.

 SARAH P. HERLIHY  2/22/2006 AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE

 The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the “stupidest provision” in the Constitution,1 “undecidedly un-American,” “blatantly discriminatory,” and the “Constitution’s worst provision.” Since Arnold Schwarzenegger’s victory in the California gubernatorial recall election of 2003, commentators and policy-makers have once again started to discuss whether Article II of the United States Constitution should be amended to render naturalized citizens eligi-ble for the presidency.5 Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution defines the eligibility requirements for an individual to become president. Article II provides:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Of-fice who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.6

Although these sixty-two words are far from extraordinary, the natural born citizen provision is controversial because it prevents over 12.8 million Americans from being eligible for the presidency.

 Again, no amendment has ever been passed to alter the Founding Fathers and Framers definition of a “Natural Born Citizen”. However Obama and his supporters have continued to attempt to not only disregard the United States Constitution, but to alter it’s meaning.

I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen -Rep. John Bingham, framer of the 14th Amendment, before The US House of Representatives ((Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291, March 9, 1866 ) http://grou.ps/zapem/blogs/3787

All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England.
-Circuit Justice Swayne, in United States vs Rhodes (1866)
http://www.thecommentary.net/1861-circuit-justice-swayne-defines-na…

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.
-Chief Justice Waite in Minor v. Happersett (1875)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_Z…

“In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the fourteenth amendment now in question, said: ‘The constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.’ And he proceeded to resort to the common law as an aid in the construction of this provision.”
-Justice Grey, in US v Wong Kim Ark (1898) http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=1…

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.
“That is mine, too,” said Leahy
-Homeland Security SecretaryMichael Chertoff and Senator Patrick Leahy, (April 03, 2008) http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States. -110th Congress, SR 511 http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/text

Constitutional Points to Ponder

As the US Constitution states as requirement for the Presidency.

Eligibility

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications one must meet to be eligible for election as President. A Presidential candidate must:

  • be a natural born citizen of the United States;
  • be at least thirty-five years old;
  • have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.

Foreign-born Americans who were citizens at the time the Constitution was adopted were also eligible to become President, provided they met the age and residency requirements. However, this allowance has since become obsolete.

No we know the definition and intent of a “Natural Born Citizen” as per the Framers and Founding Fathers.

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

As I have stated before and will state here again.  Barack Obama, he has admitted being a British citizen at birth. From his own web-site,  “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

Now ponder these Constitutional points as we review the above information.

“An Unconstitutional Act is not law; it confers no rights: it imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.”
- Norton vs. Shelby County 118 US 425 p.442

“It is well settled that, quite apart from the guarantee of equal protection, if a law impinges upon a fundamental right explicitly or implicitly secured by the Constitution it is presumptively unconstitutional.”
- Harris V. McRae, 448 US 297 (1980) (USSC+)

“Anything repugnant to the Constitution is null and void.”
-Chief Justice John Marshall, Marbury V. Madison,1Cr.137

“On every question of construction carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.”
–Thomas Jefferson to William Johnson, 1823. ME 15:449

“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”
- Thomas Jefferson

“The particular phraseology of the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written constitutions, that a law repugnant to the Constitution is void; and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.”
— John Marshall: Opinion as Chief Justice in Marbury vs. Madison, 1802

“Every act of a delegated authority, contrary to the tenor of the commission under which it is exercised, is void. No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid.”
— Alexander Hamilton

We do NOT need the birth certificate or certification of live birth, Obama is NOT eligible as per the US Constitution, and as such he IS nothing but a Usurper.  Nothing that has done, doing, or will do, will attempt is legal and binding, as per the United States Constitution.

Obama predicted years ago

Watch and see the things they talked about then and hear what Obama is spreading now.
Watch out for the “ism”, that pretends that you’ll have everything, Universal medicine is socialized medicine. Universal anything is another way for the Government to take control. When they take control, how do you gain control back. You don’t. There goes your freedom.

The new MSM Logos

Here is the new MSM Logos

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Mo-gilla Gorilla

Another cartoon that I did enjoy

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The Muslim Usurper

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Is a long form Birth Certificate fraud possible?

There is much speculation that Obama is working on a Long Form Birth certificate. That a typewriter from the period late 1950’s to the early 1960’s has been found, along with paper from the same era. That the forgery is waiting to be correctly “aged” to pass any forensic document specialist examination.

 A long form released by Obama will not answer ANY questions or validate what is already known. Let me explain.

 Obama has already admitted the following and this is not disputed;

 “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

 Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

 Thereby admitting he was a British subject. Also from his own web-site the following and notice the wording.

 Hi everyone!

People who are determined to keep us divided start these rumors about Barack’s birth certificate to manipulate us into thinking he is not an American citizen.

The fact is Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.

Learn the facts and see the birth certificate for yourself:

http://my.barackobama.com/birthcertificate

 Together we can make sure these negative and divisive attacks don’t affect this election.

Thanks for your help.

The long form Birth Certificate would have the following information, including the Doctor, nurses, witnesses, birth order, # of siblings, place of birth, mothers and father’s residence and occupation.

This would only open additional questions, that would be harder to cover-up and manipulate.

 1. They would have to disclose their residence. The residence that has been disclosed has been proven to be in question, as neighbors who were there at the time, did NOT recall the Obama’s or an inter-racial couple. The Obama’s would have stood out in the early 1960’s. Unlike the current inter-racial acceptance, in the late 1950’s and 60’s the inter-racial couples stood out and would have been remembered.

 2. Race of Father, this is an official US document and again refering back to the US Natality doumentation, on what legal entries were exceptable. African was NOT an acceptable entry.  http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/ and the 1961 Guideline http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf  Refere to Section 5 for the Technical Appendix and look under Race.

Then why if the long form is different, why the short form that was supposed to be filled in from information on the long form is different?

 3. Age of mother? Was Obama’s mother listed a different age, then her legal age, to protect against a felony charge of rape. Remember this is the early 1960’s and not today.

 4. Signature of attendent? This can be crossed referenced to duty logs and employment records. The name can NOT be pulled out of the air. They already attempted this with a Dr that retired in 1956. If there is a different name, another re-flag.

 The State of Hawaii also allows for ONLY one, attendent verification, and it can be either a Mid-wife, Doctor, Doctor’s Oderly [sp], or even other.

 5. The name of the hospital would also have to be identided, again the staffing records, and employment records and Doctors Staff, would have records.  Both hospitals that Obama has stated where he was born, has denied that both his mother and he were ever a patient.

 6. The Doctor would be identified.  There was a story already that Rodney T. West, M.D. was the doctor that delivered Obama. However after only a few hours that story was debunked as false, as Doctor West retired in 1956.  However one important note would be the following;

 Rodney West, 97, died February 24, 2008. in his native state, Hawaii, where he lived and worked for his entire career. According to the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper, West was born in Wailuku, Maui, and earned his MD from Northwestern University School of Medicine in 1934. He completed his internship and residency at Queen’s Hospital in Honolulu, the state’s largest private hospital . Called into active duty with the U.S. Navy in the fall of ’1941, West was stationed at Pearl Harbor

 If Dr. West did in fact deliver Barack Obama on Aug 4th, 1961, why did he NOT confirm it when he was alive? Barack Obama was already campaigning and stating he was born there, and Dr. West could have been asked. Just like his grandmother a convenient passing at a time, when questions were being asked, and yes, I was one that debunked the story and it was pulled after only a few hours.

 Not to mention, with the doctor when identified, he would also have personal records, and documentation.

Anyone relating to this Doctor, would gladly go back into the records and prove they were the first to slap Obama around.

 Again these are just the tip of the iceberg. As they are still a smoke screen as Obama does not, can not, NOR ever be Constitutionally eligible.

 Obama as stated above, was British at birth. Adopted by a foreign national in a foreign country. Re-entered the US illegaly, used forged papers to gain employment in this country!

 Those that have been to this site, already know the difference between a “NATIVE BORN” and a “NATURAL BORN” citizen are. So for those who would like a short course, here are the definitions:

 “Native Born” Citizen – Anyone born in the United States

 “Natural Born” Citizen – Born in the United States of parents who are citizens. Notice the parents being plural. Read the expanded legal definition at http://nobarack08.wordpress.com

 So is a long form Birth Certificate fraud possible? Yes it is, but again it would only open more questions then it would answer.  Personally there is strong and compelling evidence not limited to the following; 

1. the actions of Barack Obama to seal all his records, spending close to $1 million at this time to prevent his long form from being released

2. the fact that Hawaii can hold a foreign birth certificate as a vault copy and register the birth, even a foreign birth in the State of Hawaii.  Section 7c on the Hawaii form is for this. 

3. the fact that there are documents in Kenya that have been sealed. Why would Barack Obama have any records or documents in Kenya.

 the birth certificate on file in Hawaii can easily be the Kenyan long form, with or withoput an affidavit. That affidavit only needs to be from one person.

The State of Hawaii has also maintained the following:

They have one on file

They have NOT released any information that it contains

They have NOT stated that it is a Hawaiian Birth Certificate that they have, nor have they stated that they have one document or several documents that comprise the record.

The State of Hawaii does not even state they have a request for the COLB that was handled by FactCheck,  where as again, multiple documents were photographed. One without the SEAL and another with a SEAL.  Again, impossible as the State of Hawaii can ONLY release the document with the SEAL and signiture. So how did FactCheck have two different documents. I believe that they printed out the COLB that was posted on Fight the Smears, photographed it and in the process applied the SEAL that is seen on it, not realizing that the SEAL was different. [As shown in another post here] and then released the images without realzing they posted evidence of document forgery.

Also as proof that the State of Hawaii requires an application for the request. Go to the following site: http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html scroll to the bottom and see the request form. http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf As a side note, the State of Hawaii would also have the request from Obama for the one that he released last year 2008. Maybe the State of Hawaii can confirm they have THAT request on file and can produce THAT request also.

Obama IS a foreign national and Kenya knows it

The following was obtained from the following site.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9606845/Kenyan-National-Assembly-Wednesday-5th-November-2008-51108A

 Updated working link; http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/downloads/Tenth%20Parl%201st%20Session/Hansard/5.11.08A.pdf

NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL REPORT

Wednesday, 5th November, 2008

The House met at 9.00 a.m.

Dr. Khalwale: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. You have heard none other than the Leader of Government Business acknowledge that because of Obama’s win in the United States of America (USA), the House is crippled.

Could we allow him to move a Motion for Adjournment so that we could also continue the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the USA? I humbly request!    *****[note - "having a Kenyan ruling the USA"!]

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order, Mr. Vice-President! We are citizens of the Republic of Kenya! This is a supreme institution of this country. Our responsibility is to our country, first and foremost.

We are not citizens of the USA! Much as we appreciate and we are all happy; nonetheless we are a country ourselves.

So, it is not an excuse for a Minister to be away from his own Parliament, because he is celebrating the victory of another presidential candidate in another country.

The Assistant Minister for Water and Irrigation (Mr. Kiunjuri): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, as you can see, people are really celebrating.

However, I am wondering whether the Americans have not reported to work and yet it is their victory.

I am also hoping that there will be no homecoming for Obama. If there is one, the Leader of Government Business should alert us in good time so that we can set up a committee to organize for his homecoming.  *[note - Obama having a Homecoming to Kenya!]

Ms. Odhiambo:Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country.

*[note - Obama is soil of Kenya - birthright from his father]

Mr. Deputy Speaker: President-elect has not been sworn-in yet. The election of President-elect Obama is of utmost national importance to the United States of America. Ms. Odhiambo, you are a lawyer. You had better be very careful where you transgress between watching your own sovereignty and what can be
interpreted in some quarters as some form of treason
(Ed. note: the threat of “treason” is not directed to Ms Odhiamdo personally, but rather concern over how Obama’s “former” Kenyan Citizenship may be viewed by outsiders)

 Mr. Affey: … For the first time, we have a leader of a great country in this world whose blood is Kenyan.

*[Note - Blood is Kenyan - again Bloodright Citizenship]

COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR CONGRATULATORY MESSAGE TO PRESIDENT-ELECT BARRACK OBAMA

Hon. Members, as you may be aware, the people of the United States of America have just had a historic election where the son of this soil, Barrack Hussein Obama, has been elected the 44th President of the United States of America…

*[Note- again - of the soil]

The Vice-President and Minister forHome Affairs (Mr. Musyoka):
As we do, as you said from the Chair, this is a sovereign country. We know we can learn a lot.

To be able to support that blood relation, I think we owe it to ourselves to make sure that we have a peaceful country as Kenyans; a country that will uphold the true principles of the rule of law, democracy and tolerance between ourselves

At the beginning of this year, Senator Barrack Obama called me at midnight and told me: “Mr. Vice President, could you make sure you sort out this problem?” I want to assure him that the problem has since been sorted out.

*[Note- What problem needed to be sorted out?, that he was born there?] 

The Assistant Minister for Higher Education, Science and Technology (Dr. Mwiria):…

Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to take this opportunity to also congratulate Barrack Obama on his victory and also say that even as we look at that victory say it is possible, it is only possible because there are structures in place in the US that make it possible for any potential candidate to win, irrespective of whether they have a lot of money which they have gotten legally or illegally, they are from a different ethnic group and how old they are.

*[Note - illegal money contributed to the campaign of Barack Obama!]

 Mr. Chanzu:I highly congratulate Obama and salute Americans, Black, White and other races, for what they have done in showing the world that a leader can come from any community. I also want to congratulate Kenyans for the support they have shown. It showed the Americans that we were supporting our own.
*[Note- supporting THEIR own!]

Mr. Ethuro: … Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, we have done it! That is why I like this Motion coming at this time of Obama – yes we can! We did it with the Parliamentary Service Commission. We did it with the Leader of the Official Opposition. We are doing it
with the Official Opposition Bill. We are doing it with the establishment of the Budget Office and we are doing it with the Cabinet size! Yes we can!
*[Note - the same montra "YES WE CAN"]

Obama is an illegal alien in the United States, who has used forged documents to gain employment in this country!

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