The Obama Nativity fable exposed

The Obama Nativity fable exposed.

After graduating from high school in 1960, Stanley Ann Dunham and her family moved toHonolulu. Dunham soon enrolled at theUniversityofHawaiiat Manoa, this would have been the start of the 1961 – 1962 school year. While attending a Russian language class, Dunham met Barack Obama, Sr., the school’s first African student.  At the age of 23, Obama Sr. had come toHawaiito pursue his education, leaving behind a pregnant wife and infant son in his home town ofNyang’oma KogeloinKenya. Dunham and Obama Sr. were married on the HawaiianislandofMauion February 2, 1961.

In September 1959, Obama Sr. enrolled at theUniversityofHawaiiat Manoa inHonoluluas the university’s first African foreign student. Hence Obama Sr. was inHawaiia year prior then the Dunham’s. In 1959–1960 he lived across the street from the university at the Charles H. Atherton branch of the YMCA at1810 University Avenue; in 1960–1961 he lived two miles southeast of the university at625 11th Avenuein the Kaimuki neighborhood.

In September 1960, Obama Sr. met Ann Dunham in a basic Russian language course at theUniversityofHawaii. Dunham dropped out of theUniversityofHawaiiafter the fall 1960 semester after becoming pregnant, while Obama Sr. continued his education.

Obama Sr. continued his education at theUniversityofHawaiiand in 1961–1962, while Stanley Ann was inSeattleattending theUniversityofWashington. She took classes at theUniversityofWashingtonfrom September 1961 to June 1962, and lived as a single mother in the Capitol Hill neighborhood ofSeattlewith her son while her husband continued his studies inHawaii.

What does the above information mean.

1. Stanley Ann was inHawaiifor ‘only’ one holiday season.
2. During this time, she would have to have been pregnant.
3. Childbirth usually occurs about 38 weeks after conception.
4. From and including: Midnight between Thursday, November 3, 1960 and Friday, November 4, 1960 through To, but not including : Midnight between Thursday, August 3, 1961 and Friday, August 4, 1961 equates to approx 39 weeks.

Is there any photographic evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was pregnant during the time between the fall of 1960 and the summer of 1961?

No, there is no evidence that Stanley Ann was pregnant, but there is photographic evidence suggesting she was not pregnant.

I submit the following photographs as evidence.

Here is a photograph of Stanley Ann reportedly taken by Frank Marshall Davis.

Note the following in the picture;

1. It’s Christmas time
2. Ann has a visible tan line

Here is the second image;

In the picture above;

1. Nylons or stocking observed
2. again the tan line is visible
3. there are Christmas presents

In the third picture below;

The image above shows the

1. Christmas sign, now clearly spelling Christmas
2. again the nylons are visible
3. the tan line is evident

Compare the above toStanleyAnn.

The urban legend ‘Snopes’ has attempted to say that the above is not Ann Dunham but rather another woman named Marcy Moore.

Here is a picture of Marcy Moore

Note that Marcy Moore’s face is heavier, thicker, and she has much larger breasts than the woman in the first set of photos.

Here is a composite of several pictures of Marcy Moore to compare

If the above pictures were taken of Stanley Ann around Christmas time, then the only place that she was known to be around that time, where you could maintain a tan, as evidenced by the tan lines and darker skin color around the arms, shoulders, and face would have been Hawaii. Most people only hung there Christmas decorations after Thanksgiving and were generally taken down right after the New Year. That the presents were unopened would mean that this was before Dec 25^th, but after Thanksgiving. That would mean that at this time Stanley Ann would have been several weeks pregnant.

How many pregnant woman have you ever heard of posing like this?

So if Stanley Ann was not pregnant, then that means that it was not possible for Barack Abdallah Husein Obama to have been born in Aug 1961 inHawaiias his fabled nativity story dictates. It was also during this time she was supposed to be either dating or engaged to Barack Obama Sr.

So who is Obama real birth mother?

Sound impossible?

Read the ‘Adoption of Obama’

The COLB Playing Card

I have been keeping track of the COLB’s that have been posted on the internet. The lastest entry is the “Lucas Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate”. Here is a screen shot of the main page [below] it has embedded images of the Hawaiian and kenyan Templates that were used to create the forgeries.

The Obama COLB’s posted on “FTS” – Fight the Smears and FactCheck were created with the Hawaiian template [embedded] the date stamp Jun 6 – 2007 is clearly visible on the template and the several anomolies, such as the dots that others have mentioned are also visible.

The Kenyan Template is also embedded.

The Lucas Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate also known as the eBay Certificate is not in a singular image, but rather several screenshots. First impression on this one was it was a xeroxed copy of a Hospital Birth Certificate that would have been given to Obama’s parents. Hence the presence of the footprint. This xeroxed copy under higher contract would have resulted in the extra dark lettering and lack of finer details in the footprint itself. The additional information, such as the attending Doctor made this one a bit more convincing. One detail that was still lacking is Barack Obama Sr age, still only refered to as ’25’ with no specific date. This was one clue that initially dropped the believability factor. Without another similar document from the same era and institution, it would be hard to authenticate this one.

However, one thing that all these COLB’s have in common is the ease that a Birth Certification or Certificate can be forged and presented as a real document. Leading to what others have refered to as a ‘breeder’ document.  Where a false or forged Birth Certificate can be used to generate additional documents. Illegal’s have been using this tactis for many years.  Only now has the industry looked at it, and even FoxNews has reported on it.

Again, and as I will state making all the more important for the State of Hawaii to release whatever ‘record’ they have on file for Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro aka Barry Obama aka Barry Dunham aka ?

Here is a word doc with the blank templates. The COLB Playing Card

Here is a link to the full spreadsheet:

View this document on Scribd

Agent 00-Bama – The British Muslim 00 Agent

Barack Obama aka Barrack Obama aka Barry Soetoro aka Barry Dunham aka Barry Obama aka ? was born….

 when …. unknown

where …. unknown

 However from the country that does claim him, 

Citizenship at Birth …. British 

 This is admitted by Barack Obama aka ? and is the ONLY citizenship mentioned or claimed.

Citizenship then changed to include Kenyan when British East Africa a British Colony gained independence in Dec 1963.

 If he never exercised his option of converting it to Kenyan, his British citizenship remained intact.

 Citizenship by adoption… Indonesian Barack Obama adopted by Lolo Soetoro. School registration identifies male attending school as Barry Soetoro, Citizenship – Indonesian 

There has never been any confirmation, allegation that Barack Obama aka ? actually had, has, ever held any American citizenship in his life.

The ONLY reason that there is even a hint of ‘NATIVE’ US citizenship is that he claims to have been born in Hawaii. There has never been any substantiated proof of that.

 At Occidential he was housed with foreign students. WHY?

Unless his registration and documents hinted at this, it would have been against protocol and procedure, don’t you think? 

Therefore why would he, as a foreigner elect to sign up for the selective service in a foreign country, the United States.

Guess where they DID put out the Welcome mat and signs? Africa. 

Obama aka ? is not eligible for the Presidency, but that he is also an illegal alien who has used forged documents in gaining employment in the United States.

 From his own web-site Fight the Smears, “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

How could it have expired in 1982, ‘IF HE NEVER HAD IT?’

Also off ‘FTS’ to the left of the main post. “The fact is Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.”
Again, ‘Native’ citizen not ‘Natural Born citizen’

As for the Indonesian citizenship, here is my blog post.
Showing the Indonesian school registration.

https://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/so-who-is-he/

WND has also displayed the same.

Key fact;
Obama and his supporters can’t have it both ways. Either he is Barack Obama born in Hawaii with a foreign father and admitted British at birth, or he is Barry Soetoro who entered the US without going through the US Customs and Naturalization process and is an illegal alien.

Obama stands before the American flag 

Obama stands before the Soviet Union’s Flag
However if and I quote ‘IF‘ Obama was born in Hawaii, then he would have released his Birth Certificate long ago. There is NO evidence and documentation that he was in fact born in Hawaii or any other part of the United States. The COLB’s that have been posted are forgeries.

https://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/07/27/292/

The Adoption of Obama

The Adoption of Obama

 Like with ‘anything’ regarding the past of Obama, nothing should be taken for granted or on face value. Both of his books by Obama’s own words can NOT be taken literally. They are nothing more then a facade, a mask of the true background and nature of Barack Obama, created to produce the Obama effect on whomever wants to believe in unicorns and forest fairies.

 

Currently Obama refuses to release any documents regarding his past. We are to except what is written as fact, regardless if it conflicts with, or when the document is changed by necessity.

 Let us reason why Obama refuses to show where he was born.  Obama claims to have been born at the Kapi’olani Medical Center Hospital, then within months claims to have been born in Queens Hospital.

Claiming and facts are different.  Fact is that both hospitals fail to claim Barack Obama being born there as do other medical centers that have been contacted by researchers.

 We know from several separate statements made by his Grandmother Sarah that the following are known.

1. Obama was born in Kenya
2. She [Grandmother Sarah] was present at his birth

 Now, the remarks of one person might be questioned. But even back in the beginning of his campaign ads with “Kenyan-Born” crept up overseas, and the recent trip to Ghana again was riddled with “Returning to his Continent of Birth” and news video of people stating that Obama was Kenyan.

 But again, another ‘UNKNOWN’ must be included. Who was Barack Obama’s birth mother?

Just like with and I quote ‘EVERYTHING’ that is known and factual; the facts go so far and then drop off.  Again, notice the above, Obama was born in Kenya and she was there, but it stops at a critical point, who was his mother.

 Recently Barack Obama stated that he was a few months old when the Bay of Pigs invasion happened. A slip of the tongue or a genuine remark. Let’s dissect that statement with known facts. The Bay of Pigs invasion took place on April 1961. Obama claims to have been born on Aug 4^th 1961, four months after the event. What if in reality Obama was born prior to April 1961.

“Obama openly admits he is offering a psychological autobiography, not a chronological one.  The dialogue is an ‘approximation’ . . . the characters are ‘composites’ … ‘events appear out of precise chronology.'”

Let’s take another time period that Obama has placed relevance in, Nov 1960. The time period that Obama ‘CLAIMS’ his parents meet. Combine that with the statement from Grandma Sarah and you have the picture a little more clearly.

 Obama was dumped on Stanley Ann and Obama Sr took off to parts unknown and elsewhere like Harvard.

 Well if Stanley Ann Durham was NOT his mother then who was/is?

 First off, the gloves come off. We have always assumed that Stanley Ann was his mother. What if the reason Obama refuses to release his ‘RECORD’ that Hawaii has on files, is that it is NOT a Birth record, but an adoption record?

 Imagine that Obama finds his Birth Certificate in the box as described in “Dreams of My Father” and discovers that whom he thought was his mother WASN’T. Think of the resentment, the betrayal. when he’s old enough he starts using his ‘African’ name instead of his whitey name. He then goes on his travel of discovery, back to Africa to find his roots, To find his REAL mother, only Granny Sarah confirms the story. then to Indonesia to confront his mother and onto Pakistan where the real Barry finds solstice in the breeding hatred of Islam, and back to the US, and he uses the name Obama again. Dropping Soetoro as the anger against his mother is festering and now he’s Barack Obama ONLY. Created by paper once before, he re-creates himself again by using ‘HIS’ name.

 

 It also explains his white race hatred, esp. the teachings of Black theology in Wright’s Church. His non-advertising his ‘mother’s race’

 From Dreams of My Father: ‘I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.’

 From Dreams of My Father: ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.’

 From Dreams of My Father: ‘There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.’

 From Dreams of My Father: ‘It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.’

From Dreams of My Father: ‘I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.’

 From Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’

 This is a perverse/warped/twisted individual outlook on his own biological mother is nothing less then alarming! It only adds to the mounting evidence that Stanley Ann was NOT his birth mother and the resentment that Barack Obama fostered because of the lies that were told to him. Stanley Ann became the evil step-mother in Cinderella and Obama’s used that fantasy to foster the hatred not only towards his mother, but also to his mother’s race.   

 This also clears up, the Dr Rodney West story that was floated around just prior to the inauguration. Dr Rodney West, whom the Obots touted as the Dr who first spanked Obama NEVER came forward and said that he delivered him. When he [Dr Rodney West] was still alive during the beginning of the campaign no mention was ever made.  Dr Rodney West would also have all his patient records as an infant and possibly for his mother. SO we have the Dr, who died last year who like the hospital has NEVER stepped forward and confirmed ANYTHING.

 And lastly the documents that Kenya has stated they have sealed are explained. The birth certificate that was generated by law when Barack Obama was born in Kenya has his real birth’s mother name and that is why they have protected it from seeing the light of day, as it contains a name other then Stanley Ann Obama.

 Here are the official State of Hawaii guidelines concerning adoption records.

 http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0020_0005.htm

  §338-20.5  Adoption; foreign born persons.  (a)  The department of health shall establish a Hawaii certificate of birth for a person born in a foreign country and for whom a final decree of adoption has been entered in a court of competent jurisdiction in Hawaii, when it receives the following:

      (1)  A properly certified copy of the adoption decree, or certified abstract thereof on a form approved by the department; and

      (2)  A copy of any investigatory report and recommendation which may have been prepared by the director of social services; and

      (3)  A report on a form to be approved by the department of health setting forth the following:

          (A)  Date of assumption of custody;

          (B)  Sex;

          (C)  Color or race;

          (D)  Approximate age of child;

          (E)  Name and address of the person or persons adopting said child;

          (F)  Name given to child by adoptive parent or parents;

          (G)    True or probable country of birth.

 Or this;

 http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0021.htm

     §338-21  Children born to parents not married to each other.  (a)  All children born to parents not married to each other, irrespective of the marriage of either natural parent to another, (1) on the marriage of the natural parents with each other, (2) on the voluntary, written acknowledgements of paternity under oath signed by the natural father and the natural mother, or (3) on establishment of the parent and child relationship under chapter 584, are entitled to the same rights as those born to parents married to each other and shall take the name so stipulated by their parents or, if the parents do not agree on the name, shall take the name specified by a court of competent jurisdiction to be the name that is in the best interests of the child.  The original certificate of birth shall contain the name so stipulated.  The child or children or the parents thereof may petition the department of health to issue a new original certificate of birth, and not a duplicate of the original certificate that has been amended, altered, or modified, in the new name of the child, and the department shall issue the new original certificate of birth.  As used in this section “name” includes the first name, middle name, or last name.

     (b)  The evidence upon which the new original certificate is made, and the superseded original certificate shall be sealed and filed and may be opened only upon order of a court of record.

     (c)  If the child’s natural parents marry each other and desire to change the child’s name, the child’s name may be changed and a new original certificate of birth prepared.

    (d)  Nothing in this section shall be construed to limit the power of the courts to order the department to prepare new certificates of birth under section 584-23. [L 1949, c 327, §25; RL 1955, §57-24; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; am L 1967, c 6, §2; HRS §338-21; am L 1975, c 66, §2(4); am L 1980, c 153, §5; am L 1983, c 65, §2; am L 1986, c 287, §1; am L 1987, c 100, §2; am L 1988, c 141, §27; am L 1993, c 131, §3]

           The true or probable country of birth shall be known as the place of birth, and the date of birth shall be determined by approximation.  This report shall constitute an original certificate of birth; and

 (4)     A request that a new certificate of birth be established.

 Attorney General Opinions

  Department of health’s preparation of a new birth certificate pursuant to paternity orders.  Att. Gen. Op. 87-6.

 Case Notes

   Legitimacy or illegitimacy fixed at birth and cannot be changed by subsequent legislation.  3 H. 459; 4 H. 548.  Prior to amendment of Act 71, L 1907, children of adulterous intercourse not legitimated by subsequent marriage of parents.  4 H. 292; 17 H. 45, 415, aff’d 210 U.S. 149.  Legitimation by subsequent marriage.  29 H. 258, aff’d 16 F.2d 273.

   Child begotten and born out of wedlock even though legitimated by statute on marriage of parents, is not “lawfully begotten child” within meaning of will.  14 H. 271.

   Presumption of legitimacy is not conclusive, but rebuttable.  30 H. 574.  Evidence to rebut presumption.  49 H. 273, 414 P.2d 925.

   Effect of legitimation on necessity of father’s consent to adoption of child.  52 H. 395, 477 P.2d 780.

 In short the ‘Adoption of  Obama’ into the marriage of Obama/Durham created on paper, the “Aug 4^th 1961 in Hawaii” existence of the one known as “Barack Hussein Obama” born of a foreign and British ‘subject’ Barack Obama Sr and others unknown in Kenya.  This fulfills the puzzle in a complete circle. But it also mandates that as long as Barack Hussein Obama can confuse and claim to be born in Hawaii or at least to a US Citizen mother, then a certain number of the public will be slumbered into believing a ‘Native’ Citizen is eligible for the Presidency, where as a foreign born, with foreign parents leaves no doubt that Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro aka Barry Durham aka Barry Obama is exactly who he ‘CLAIMS’ he is, at the moment he’s claiming it, but in no way a ‘Natural Born’ Citizen as required by the United States Constitution.

Obama’s Lawyers caught in lies

Last week I was on Plains Radio, discusssing the Obama Birth Certificate fraud and some Obama lawyers came on and decided to spread lies. However they were caught. Here is a snipet of the Plains Radio chat room on Friday night;
Ed_Hale: dang no way – after the crap i took for 2 days about having the Obots on here – they an’t coming back
Jessie3: Charlene, say it like it is, we want to kick a$$
LUGNUT96: lol Ed
charlene: Ed,  Oh Come On.. Just For A Few
TexGirl: any other ladies want a piece of jimbot?
charlene: Give Us The Chance To Kick His Behind
LUGNUT96: yes
Ed_Hale:  NO No No No No
LUGNUT96: lol
KatieIN: Ed, thanks for listening to the voice of plains radio folks
charlene: And Send A Message To Barry
LUGNUT96: Yes Ed
TexGirl: kick his butt
zulu: No
LUGNUT96: lol
LUGNUT96: yes
TexGirl: we’ll gang up on him
charlene: ed, your no fun   
TexGirl: zulu and linda too?  anybody else?
Ed_Hale: Beside Jim Sent Me A Eamil Where They Surrender To Us – They Could Not Take Any More Of Us Catchign Them In Lies
lindastarr: Gang Bang Jimbot
charlene: Ed,  but it woudn’t be a question and answer session
Jessie3: really Ed, we got to them?
charlene: lol
TexGirl: Patriot-bang jimbot
X-MEN: Hey for you know he could be in here right now.
charlene: it would be a kick behind
harriet: Give him the information to send a letter to Judge Schneider will do more good.
Ed_Hale: Yes after Ken and Sc took them apart jim sent me a email saying they would not be back
TexGirl: i want a piece of jimbot … that would make my day
Jessie3: that was nice of him Ed. they have been ringing our chimes for too long and we beat em
TexGirl: i would tear him up and spit him out
charlene: look what happened,  Plaines Radio created a monster
Ed_Hale: He knows that Texgirl
LUGNUT96: Have Ken And Sc get jimbot again Ed
Leecamp: hope so robbie
TexGirl: those obot chicks needed a good swift kick in their butts
charlene: Ed..  thanks a lot and it was Your  program that created a monster ( me) lol
KC4TX: Ed they never counted on so many smart people
Ed_Hale: yes they thought all of you were like me – a dumb redneck Texan
TexGirl: fakejimbot?
LUGNUT96: loll Ed
charlene: Jessie all of us can
charlene: and ed your far from dumb..
LUGNUT96: they will be back and wwe will be ready
booklady: They’re mistake, Ed, is that you may have an accent, but dumb….no.
Pmb09 has left.
Lanie: Ed knows they wouldn’t have a chance with us.
Robbie: fakejimbot called in impersonating jimbot and we saw right through him and tore him a new a-hole.
swift: no its barry
TexGirl: we always know the ‘real’ jimbot … he’s always drunk   
harriet: charlene: there are more of us than them.
LUGNUT96: lol pof
Ed_Hale: 4 days in a row we had our show highligthed in a email – last one was “obama lawyer get their butts handed to them by 2 lay people on Plains Radio”
Robbie: Texgirl, fakejimbot sounded just like jimbot, so we think it was him and sent him out of here crying!
Jessie3: Rush said today that Bo was usurping America
Ed_Hale: and then it had the link to the archives
TexGirl: robbie … oh that is sweet …that y’all had him cryin like a baby   
Ed_Hale: that is one reson we have gotten so many new listeners
LUGNUT96: yees linda
mominva: lol X!!!!!!!!!
Robbie: i know it was jimbot because he always sounds like he is taking a sip of something and we know it is Jack Daniels.
charlene: Xmen lol
lindastarr: well I helped bring new people in too Ed
Jessie3: did you hear it lee?
LUGNUT96: well then Ed that is why we want Jimbot Back Her  then
TexGirl: jack daniels laced with koolaid
Ed_Hale: Eeveryone was so suprised that Ken and Sc were so knowldgeable on Obama
Lanie: I think they are scared to come back anay.
chuger: The people in our government today are the sons and daughtes of the radicals and revolutionaries from the 60’s and 70’s that burned and terrorized our country. They are classic Marxist, fascist National Socialist  evil people.
TexGirl: oh …well…. ken and Sc are extremely knowlegable
Lanie: anyway
Leecamp: ken and Sc rock!!!
X-MEN: I’m telling you guys what we’ve done is making an impact. My friend is a harcore Obot lover and now he calls him Hitler.
pof: I didnt see them chanhe their mind Ed
Ed_Hale: so I can get yelled at by some of the folks here Lug
LUGNUT96: Ed We Need To Send Them 2 out and on the news channels lol
Jessie3: daughter well great grand daughter of the revolution
TexGirl: my heros … ken and Sc 
TexGirl: and Ralph and Carmen 
charlene: Yes Ken and Sc are the best
zulu: good x
SC: Thanks lug
LUGNUT96: Yes Ed Lol
kaks: Yes, Ken and Sc need to go to the news channels.
TexGirl: and Ed and Caren 
LUGNUT96: hah
GHOSTfighter has joined.
LUGNUT96: welcome Sc
TexGirl: and hummingbird
X-MEN: He is not the only one, others are seeing it..
KC4TX: hi Ghost
booklady: Wb, ghostie!
Leecamp: Obama is not president…never can be.
Lanie: Obama is showing them himself Ed but now they are believing what we say.

Now I recieved the following e-mail;

> —– Forwarded Message —–
> From: “Unalienable Rights” <keeprrights@gmail.com>
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:22:46 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
> Subject: WOW! Obot Lawyers Torn Apaprt — AND– The BIG GUY –VP Procter & Gamble is TICKED at the RAT/USURPER/ “SIAP”
>
> Keep feeding strong resentments to the Fed and State reps at all levels to get them to move on out NOW with removing the RAT/USURPER/ “SIAP” from OUR TRUE AMERICANS’ HOUSE.
>
> Also, hear the Obots support lawyers get their rear ends tore out by l ayman researchers here at a down to earth news source called Plains Radio.

The other night the Obot lawyers were attempting to tell people that the STATE of Hawaii ONLY releases the abbreviated or “Short Form”. I told them that this was a lie.
They then attempted to say that all the data and records were transfered to a database and that was all they had.

I decided to re-confirm with the State of Hawaii and here is their reply.

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I decided to inquire further and dig deeper, here again is the State of Hawaii’s reply.

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Now, here is WHAT is important.

1. The State of Hawaii, still maintains ALL the origional records.

2. The Long Form Birth Certificates are still available, with a Judges Order!

3. The Obot lawyers have been caught in another Lie, and attempting not only divert attention but out and out MIS-REPRESENT facts to the American public.

Other lies are were that the “Natural Born Citizen” clause was amended. Please see here for a detail explaination: https://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/natural-born-confusion-only-for-obama-supporters/

 

Is a long form Birth Certificate fraud possible?

There is much speculation that Obama is working on a Long Form Birth certificate. That a typewriter from the period late 1950’s to the early 1960’s has been found, along with paper from the same era. That the forgery is waiting to be correctly “aged” to pass any forensic document specialist examination.

 A long form released by Obama will not answer ANY questions or validate what is already known. Let me explain.

 Obama has already admitted the following and this is not disputed;

 “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

 Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

 Thereby admitting he was a British subject. Also from his own web-site the following and notice the wording.

 Hi everyone!

People who are determined to keep us divided start these rumors about Barack’s birth certificate to manipulate us into thinking he is not an American citizen.

The fact is Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.

Learn the facts and see the birth certificate for yourself:

http://my.barackobama.com/birthcertificate

 Together we can make sure these negative and divisive attacks don’t affect this election.

Thanks for your help.

The long form Birth Certificate would have the following information, including the Doctor, nurses, witnesses, birth order, # of siblings, place of birth, mothers and father’s residence and occupation.

This would only open additional questions, that would be harder to cover-up and manipulate.

 1. They would have to disclose their residence. The residence that has been disclosed has been proven to be in question, as neighbors who were there at the time, did NOT recall the Obama’s or an inter-racial couple. The Obama’s would have stood out in the early 1960’s. Unlike the current inter-racial acceptance, in the late 1950’s and 60’s the inter-racial couples stood out and would have been remembered.

 2. Race of Father, this is an official US document and again refering back to the US Natality doumentation, on what legal entries were exceptable. African was NOT an acceptable entry.  http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/ and the 1961 Guideline http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf  Refere to Section 5 for the Technical Appendix and look under Race.

Then why if the long form is different, why the short form that was supposed to be filled in from information on the long form is different?

 3. Age of mother? Was Obama’s mother listed a different age, then her legal age, to protect against a felony charge of rape. Remember this is the early 1960’s and not today.

 4. Signature of attendent? This can be crossed referenced to duty logs and employment records. The name can NOT be pulled out of the air. They already attempted this with a Dr that retired in 1956. If there is a different name, another re-flag.

 The State of Hawaii also allows for ONLY one, attendent verification, and it can be either a Mid-wife, Doctor, Doctor’s Oderly [sp], or even other.

 5. The name of the hospital would also have to be identided, again the staffing records, and employment records and Doctors Staff, would have records.  Both hospitals that Obama has stated where he was born, has denied that both his mother and he were ever a patient.

 6. The Doctor would be identified.  There was a story already that Rodney T. West, M.D. was the doctor that delivered Obama. However after only a few hours that story was debunked as false, as Doctor West retired in 1956.  However one important note would be the following;

 Rodney West, 97, died February 24, 2008. in his native state, Hawaii, where he lived and worked for his entire career. According to the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper, West was born in Wailuku, Maui, and earned his MD from Northwestern University School of Medicine in 1934. He completed his internship and residency at Queen’s Hospital in Honolulu, the state’s largest private hospital . Called into active duty with the U.S. Navy in the fall of ‘1941, West was stationed at Pearl Harbor

 If Dr. West did in fact deliver Barack Obama on Aug 4^th, 1961, why did he NOT confirm it when he was alive? Barack Obama was already campaigning and stating he was born there, and Dr. West could have been asked. Just like his grandmother a convenient passing at a time, when questions were being asked, and yes, I was one that debunked the story and it was pulled after only a few hours.

 Not to mention, with the doctor when identified, he would also have personal records, and documentation.

Anyone relating to this Doctor, would gladly go back into the records and prove they were the first to slap Obama around.

 Again these are just the tip of the iceberg. As they are still a smoke screen as Obama does not, can not, NOR ever be Constitutionally eligible.

 Obama as stated above, was British at birth. Adopted by a foreign national in a foreign country. Re-entered the US illegaly, used forged papers to gain employment in this country!

 Those that have been to this site, already know the difference between a “NATIVE BORN” and a “NATURAL BORN” citizen are. So for those who would like a short course, here are the definitions:

 “Native Born” Citizen – Anyone born in the United States

 “Natural Born” Citizen – Born in the United States of parents who are citizens. Notice the parents being plural. Read the expanded legal definition at https://nobarack08.wordpress.com

 So is a long form Birth Certificate fraud possible? Yes it is, but again it would only open more questions then it would answer.  Personally there is strong and compelling evidence not limited to the following; 

1. the actions of Barack Obama to seal all his records, spending close to $1 million at this time to prevent his long form from being released

2. the fact that Hawaii can hold a foreign birth certificate as a vault copy and register the birth, even a foreign birth in the State of Hawaii.  Section 7c on the Hawaii form is for this. 

3. the fact that there are documents in Kenya that have been sealed. Why would Barack Obama have any records or documents in Kenya.

 the birth certificate on file in Hawaii can easily be the Kenyan long form, with or withoput an affidavit. That affidavit only needs to be from one person.

The State of Hawaii has also maintained the following:

They have one on file

They have NOT released any information that it contains

They have NOT stated that it is a Hawaiian Birth Certificate that they have, nor have they stated that they have one document or several documents that comprise the record.

The State of Hawaii does not even state they have a request for the COLB that was handled by FactCheck,  where as again, multiple documents were photographed. One without the SEAL and another with a SEAL.  Again, impossible as the State of Hawaii can ONLY release the document with the SEAL and signiture. So how did FactCheck have two different documents. I believe that they printed out the COLB that was posted on Fight the Smears, photographed it and in the process applied the SEAL that is seen on it, not realizing that the SEAL was different. [As shown in another post here] and then released the images without realzing they posted evidence of document forgery.

Also as proof that the State of Hawaii requires an application for the request. Go to the following site: http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html scroll to the bottom and see the request form. http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf As a side note, the State of Hawaii would also have the request from Obama for the one that he released last year 2008. Maybe the State of Hawaii can confirm they have THAT request on file and can produce THAT request also.